“Somehow the living spirit has to be brought with us. And this is really the high task for shamanism.”
-Terence McKenna

Here’s how I view this:
The task of shamanism is to connect people, humanity, all of us, individually & collectively, to our soul selves – our higher selves.
& our higher selves are very much alive, possibly in a dimension beyond, yet connected with this physical world.
Ram Dass calls this place “Soul Land”
& I think it’s real.